Dont Hurt Me
Aug 31, 03:05 PM
Knowing that Apple doesn't pay listed prices, it's not unreasonable to assume that Apple could get the Yonah chips for less than Merom ones.
Also, Apple has historically liked to scale its product lineup to encourage buying then next item up the scale. Some have even referred to it as "crippling" the lower machines.Ahh crippling like using inferior Gpu's like in ProMac & Mini? Both GMA950 & 7300 are bottom tier.
Also, Apple has historically liked to scale its product lineup to encourage buying then next item up the scale. Some have even referred to it as "crippling" the lower machines.Ahh crippling like using inferior Gpu's like in ProMac & Mini? Both GMA950 & 7300 are bottom tier.
Slix
Mar 26, 02:49 PM
This looks pretty amazing.
Benjy91
Mar 27, 09:43 AM
Tell that to the hundreds (at times over a thousand) reviewers who are raving about it.
Yeah, "terrible" my ass.
Doubters need to wrap their head around this new concept. They can start accepting this new paradigm for the standard setting phenomenon it is (and I don't mean the 3DS, LOL), or get left behind.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWQVTCtYTqOCaE69JWzqP9qnLvATSLUN3Nn6GIQESvI8sZWaBexOI7nPL_7Me2BejZfF3J6SGeLpIW_zYqEX54ddPoS5UOhrt_u0zb0OrC7yJXo6BBY0TNFz0-MmEelcz7CuJ8IpDmry64/s1600/crysis2+gameplay+screen+3+dx11.jpg
I dont think the future holds a huge step backwards in terms of graphics, and the pure awkwardness of trying to play something like an FPS on a touchscreen.
The only kind of game this would work for is a Racing Game, as demonstrated, and even then I dont think it's as precise as a controller, let alone the Gaming Steering Wheels you can buy.
Download Bad Company 2 for iPhone, and play it for a while, and then tell us if you could easily play that without looking at the buttons.
It'll never be as easy and intuitive as a physical controller or mouse and keyboard. This isnt the future, this is a "neat" idea, not something to compete with PS3 and Xbox 360.
http://playgamesuk.com/WebRoot/StoreDaily/Shops/eshop173143/4AB2/49C5/1913/4D90/E30B/C0A8/0ADD/4FEE/xbox_0020_wireless_0020_controller_0020_black.jpg
Yeah, "terrible" my ass.
Doubters need to wrap their head around this new concept. They can start accepting this new paradigm for the standard setting phenomenon it is (and I don't mean the 3DS, LOL), or get left behind.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWQVTCtYTqOCaE69JWzqP9qnLvATSLUN3Nn6GIQESvI8sZWaBexOI7nPL_7Me2BejZfF3J6SGeLpIW_zYqEX54ddPoS5UOhrt_u0zb0OrC7yJXo6BBY0TNFz0-MmEelcz7CuJ8IpDmry64/s1600/crysis2+gameplay+screen+3+dx11.jpg
I dont think the future holds a huge step backwards in terms of graphics, and the pure awkwardness of trying to play something like an FPS on a touchscreen.
The only kind of game this would work for is a Racing Game, as demonstrated, and even then I dont think it's as precise as a controller, let alone the Gaming Steering Wheels you can buy.
Download Bad Company 2 for iPhone, and play it for a while, and then tell us if you could easily play that without looking at the buttons.
It'll never be as easy and intuitive as a physical controller or mouse and keyboard. This isnt the future, this is a "neat" idea, not something to compete with PS3 and Xbox 360.
http://playgamesuk.com/WebRoot/StoreDaily/Shops/eshop173143/4AB2/49C5/1913/4D90/E30B/C0A8/0ADD/4FEE/xbox_0020_wireless_0020_controller_0020_black.jpg
sisyphus
Sep 1, 03:49 PM
It has seemed as obvious at almost every point in Apple's history within the past 4 years. That doesn't change a thing.
Apple had ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS had a noticable gap between its top-of-the-line consumer machine and it's "entry-level" professional machine. As much as I'd love a middle-tier headless Mac, I just don't think it's in the cards.
The difference now is that there is no crippled Mac Pro. The low end PowerMac was always crippled in some way to the mid and high end. There would always be an old motherboard, slower bus, less RAM...
This time the machines are consistent all the way across. Why? Because with the Woodcrest/Conroe differentiations they can actually create different categories.
Pros -> faster bus, 2 CPU (Woodcrest). Mac Pro
Prosumer -> Mid bus, 1 CPU (Conroe). Mac
Consumer -> Slower bus, quiet, one piece, slower CPU (Merom). iMac
Budget -> Slowest, minimalist comptuer, old tech (Yonah). Mac Mini
Seems pretty obvious. The hole left in the product line is the biggest yet, but the processor steps are VERY clear and not overlapping each other.
mini (Yonah) < iMac (Merom)< Mac (Conroe) < Mac Pro (2xWoodcrest)
Apple had ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS had a noticable gap between its top-of-the-line consumer machine and it's "entry-level" professional machine. As much as I'd love a middle-tier headless Mac, I just don't think it's in the cards.
The difference now is that there is no crippled Mac Pro. The low end PowerMac was always crippled in some way to the mid and high end. There would always be an old motherboard, slower bus, less RAM...
This time the machines are consistent all the way across. Why? Because with the Woodcrest/Conroe differentiations they can actually create different categories.
Pros -> faster bus, 2 CPU (Woodcrest). Mac Pro
Prosumer -> Mid bus, 1 CPU (Conroe). Mac
Consumer -> Slower bus, quiet, one piece, slower CPU (Merom). iMac
Budget -> Slowest, minimalist comptuer, old tech (Yonah). Mac Mini
Seems pretty obvious. The hole left in the product line is the biggest yet, but the processor steps are VERY clear and not overlapping each other.
mini (Yonah) < iMac (Merom)< Mac (Conroe) < Mac Pro (2xWoodcrest)
moondog190
Feb 24, 02:19 PM
I was able to get the link working but the picture won't show on the forums for some reason
Squonk
Oct 23, 07:02 AM
... and here we go again!
I hope they come out soon. And then I really, really hope that whatever it is, that people do not start moaning about that one too! I cannot guarantee that I won't be sharing my opinion....
Steve - pull the trigger, but only when it's ready for primetime!
I hope they come out soon. And then I really, really hope that whatever it is, that people do not start moaning about that one too! I cannot guarantee that I won't be sharing my opinion....
Steve - pull the trigger, but only when it's ready for primetime!
KnightWRX
Mar 24, 01:59 PM
Not if they redesign the Macbooks so the video signal goes back the other way down the thunderbolt cable and directly to the display.
So wait, you'd have to dongle a video card to the thunderbolt port to get a decent GPU for the internal monitor, if the signal can travel both ways (going out the port to get processed by this external GPU and then come back to get displayed on the internal screen).
No, just no. That's a terrible idea.
Although using a 2GB HD 6970 on a 1280x800 display is a bit silly.
How is it silly ? We're talking about a GPU. Even at 1280x800, the Intel GPU sucks, why would it be silly to want to run games on high settings ?
So wait, you'd have to dongle a video card to the thunderbolt port to get a decent GPU for the internal monitor, if the signal can travel both ways (going out the port to get processed by this external GPU and then come back to get displayed on the internal screen).
No, just no. That's a terrible idea.
Although using a 2GB HD 6970 on a 1280x800 display is a bit silly.
How is it silly ? We're talking about a GPU. Even at 1280x800, the Intel GPU sucks, why would it be silly to want to run games on high settings ?
serafin
Feb 8, 04:50 PM
Oh dear chaps, mine looks almost feeble compared to your big American monster cars!
I have exactly the same. Same rims, also 2doors, and same color. Just dont tell me that your one is 2.0 TDI
:D
I have exactly the same. Same rims, also 2doors, and same color. Just dont tell me that your one is 2.0 TDI
:D
lordonuthin
Jan 6, 10:43 PM
mc68k
i'll be at 8 digits, not too bad. but it's really just a #. things might be changing for me for the worse WU-wise temporarily
We can't keep this pace up all the time, I will probably be forced to do the same in the summer.
great news! glad we are passing some teams!
congrats! yeah my numbers might be down a lil also in the next couple of weeks it's looking like
Hopefully we can pass another team in about 30 days or so, we'll see if we can pick up some steam from new folders.
i'll be at 8 digits, not too bad. but it's really just a #. things might be changing for me for the worse WU-wise temporarily
We can't keep this pace up all the time, I will probably be forced to do the same in the summer.
great news! glad we are passing some teams!
congrats! yeah my numbers might be down a lil also in the next couple of weeks it's looking like
Hopefully we can pass another team in about 30 days or so, we'll see if we can pick up some steam from new folders.
Jaster
Apr 3, 09:24 AM
What does the iOS scrollbar look like on pages with a black background?
PowerFullMac
Jan 12, 04:16 PM
Perhaps AIR is an acronym?
Apple I______ R______ :)
Interesting... Very interesting... Apple InfaRed... Apple Internet Reader... Apple Instruction Ripper...
Apple I______ R______ :)
Interesting... Very interesting... Apple InfaRed... Apple Internet Reader... Apple Instruction Ripper...
aibo82
May 2, 07:54 PM
Yes but are they bringing:
Ios to the mac
Mac to the ios
The wrong way around is going to kill power users and the openeness thats left of the mac os operating system do we really want a closed off mac os/ios hybrid?
Mac os should be advancing not getting waterd down with simple user toys! We are going to be paying more for less!
iPad Pro?
Macbook dead!
Ios to the mac
Mac to the ios
The wrong way around is going to kill power users and the openeness thats left of the mac os operating system do we really want a closed off mac os/ios hybrid?
Mac os should be advancing not getting waterd down with simple user toys! We are going to be paying more for less!
iPad Pro?
Macbook dead!
Edge100
Sep 1, 12:28 PM
I'm not sure about this one. It will depend on how agressively Apple prices these.
I have a 20" iMac, and with my edu discount (at the time), I paid about $2500 (Canadian) for it with 2GB RAM (from Apple...was cheaper than anywhere else, believe it or not!), 256MB VRAM, and a 250GB HD.
For about $350-450, I can get a decent (not great, but decent) 20" widescreen display and hook it up to my iMac, giving me 3360 x 1050 resolution, which is plenty wide enough to display 36+ faders in Logic, plus some other apps (Live, Reason) that I use with it. A 23" display would only give me 1920 x 1200.
The point is: depending on how Apple prices it, I can get the 20" plus an external monitor and get more space for less money.
I can see this working if (a) the 23" isn't substantially more expensive than the 20" AND (b) there are a few other things (i.e. bigger HD, more RAM, faster/better vid card) to distinguish the machines. This is the precise reason I didn't get the 500GB drive in my iMac...I went up to 250, but I could make up the additional 250GB over Firewire for a lot less.
Either way, these should be sweet. I love my iMac (it does EVERYTHING I need today) and I don't anticipate upgrading for a number of years (well, maybe I'll slap in a Merom after the Applecare expires!)
Anyway, just my two cents.
I have a 20" iMac, and with my edu discount (at the time), I paid about $2500 (Canadian) for it with 2GB RAM (from Apple...was cheaper than anywhere else, believe it or not!), 256MB VRAM, and a 250GB HD.
For about $350-450, I can get a decent (not great, but decent) 20" widescreen display and hook it up to my iMac, giving me 3360 x 1050 resolution, which is plenty wide enough to display 36+ faders in Logic, plus some other apps (Live, Reason) that I use with it. A 23" display would only give me 1920 x 1200.
The point is: depending on how Apple prices it, I can get the 20" plus an external monitor and get more space for less money.
I can see this working if (a) the 23" isn't substantially more expensive than the 20" AND (b) there are a few other things (i.e. bigger HD, more RAM, faster/better vid card) to distinguish the machines. This is the precise reason I didn't get the 500GB drive in my iMac...I went up to 250, but I could make up the additional 250GB over Firewire for a lot less.
Either way, these should be sweet. I love my iMac (it does EVERYTHING I need today) and I don't anticipate upgrading for a number of years (well, maybe I'll slap in a Merom after the Applecare expires!)
Anyway, just my two cents.
andrew.gw
Apr 3, 10:02 AM
What does the iOS scrollbar look like on pages with a black background?
http://cl.ly/3W1u1A3X0K0K1w0q3N2J/ScrollBar.png
http://cl.ly/3W1u1A3X0K0K1w0q3N2J/ScrollBar.png
localghost
Nov 15, 11:39 AM
is there a chance that they replace the two dual core xenon with only one quad core xenon in the mac pro and drop the price? speedwise it should be about the same and it should definately be cheaper to make.
interesting question, but afaik two different chips would perform better (at the same ghz).
any chance that there will be an update of the mac pro before 2007?
if so, will the current models get more ram, or a different gpu or a lower price?
i'd appreciate any educated guesses since i have to buy in 2006 for tax reasons.
interesting question, but afaik two different chips would perform better (at the same ghz).
any chance that there will be an update of the mac pro before 2007?
if so, will the current models get more ram, or a different gpu or a lower price?
i'd appreciate any educated guesses since i have to buy in 2006 for tax reasons.
Torrijos
Apr 19, 12:00 PM
Dream config :
Desktop Sandy Bridge CPU (difference being in the PCIe channels available)
Good quality hard drive for mass storage but...
Possibility to instal SSD in the same form factor that the MBA (and giving it its own data channel)
Desktop GPUs
at least 2 Full Thunderbolt ports (again the mobile version of Sandy bridge doesn't offer enough data channel to allow this)
Desktop Sandy Bridge CPU (difference being in the PCIe channels available)
Good quality hard drive for mass storage but...
Possibility to instal SSD in the same form factor that the MBA (and giving it its own data channel)
Desktop GPUs
at least 2 Full Thunderbolt ports (again the mobile version of Sandy bridge doesn't offer enough data channel to allow this)
MShock
May 2, 05:40 PM
Interesting� after the new GNOME 3.0 release, I'm convinced we will move farther way from the typical menu layout to a more minimalist, more web interactive interface. iOS is probably the closest to that, but I see windows looking more like FireFox 4 for Windows with the Firefox pop down menu and elimination of File, Edit, View etc. at the top. Mac OS 10.8 or 11 will probably follow suit, except have more webOS like functionality, and will converge several apps into 1�
MacinDoc
Oct 23, 08:30 PM
hmmm - lots of stuff (santa rosa MacBook Pros of course :p ).
NY- Central Park, Boathouse
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lordonuthin
Mar 18, 01:46 PM
Here are monthly stats for our team (http://kakaostats.com/usum.php?u=1628981) designed is kicking some booty! Way to go designed :eek:
Our team stats page (http://kakaostats.com/t.php?t=3446) click in the columns to change the sort
Our team stats page (http://kakaostats.com/t.php?t=3446) click in the columns to change the sort
Vegasman
May 2, 07:29 PM
Dialogs are not read top-to-bottom, left-to-right. You read the buttons first, then the title bar (if easily visible), then you'll scan the text, then if you absolutely must you'll waste seconds of your valuable life actually reading the whole text in sentence form. Since the "Delete file" text is nearly invisible in that screenshot, that dialog will be read like this:
[Yes][No]
Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla Recycle Bin?
Bla bla bla bla bla
Bla bla bla bla bla
Bla bla bla bla bla
Which is fine if you meant to bring up the dialog, but what if you brought it up accidentally? Many users get in the habit of always clicking Yes and OK. Buttons that will have destructive actions should be labeled clearly with what will happen.
I'll buy that. :)
[Yes][No]
Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla Recycle Bin?
Bla bla bla bla bla
Bla bla bla bla bla
Bla bla bla bla bla
Which is fine if you meant to bring up the dialog, but what if you brought it up accidentally? Many users get in the habit of always clicking Yes and OK. Buttons that will have destructive actions should be labeled clearly with what will happen.
I'll buy that. :)
macgeek18
Feb 18, 12:37 AM
Nice setup! It has a little bit of everything in it!
Thank you! I like it a lot and it's about 2 years in progress for everything so far.
Thank you! I like it a lot and it's about 2 years in progress for everything so far.
Finlandboy
Feb 27, 09:57 AM
well this is my current setup in my fraternity house at school. not the prettiest but its functional and i don't mind it. (sorry about the grainy pics)
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/Finlandboy05/IMAG0252.jpg
~~desk~~
-macbook pro (specs in sig. at bottom)
-hooked up to my 19' Acer monitor
-magic mouse
-logitech 2.0 speakers
-WD 320gig my book
-ipod touch, iphone 3gs, ipod nano (and soon to be ipad 2)
-wired apple keyboard and logitech vx revolution (hooked up to powerbook)
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/Finlandboy05/IMAG0246.jpg http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/Finlandboy05/IMAG0248.jpg
~~entertainment area~~
-powerbook g4 (under tv, specs in sig. at bottom)
-hooked up to my 26' razor Vizio
-and currently connected up to my logitech 5.1 surround sound setup
(i mainly use the PB as a media player to watch lost)
-xbox 360 (with my case/fan mods)
-my roommates 32' Viera
-my roommates ps3
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/Finlandboy05/Untitled.png
~not pictured~
-other ipods i left at home
-Evo 4g (took the pics with it)
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/Finlandboy05/IMAG0252.jpg
~~desk~~
-macbook pro (specs in sig. at bottom)
-hooked up to my 19' Acer monitor
-magic mouse
-logitech 2.0 speakers
-WD 320gig my book
-ipod touch, iphone 3gs, ipod nano (and soon to be ipad 2)
-wired apple keyboard and logitech vx revolution (hooked up to powerbook)
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/Finlandboy05/IMAG0246.jpg http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/Finlandboy05/IMAG0248.jpg
~~entertainment area~~
-powerbook g4 (under tv, specs in sig. at bottom)
-hooked up to my 26' razor Vizio
-and currently connected up to my logitech 5.1 surround sound setup
(i mainly use the PB as a media player to watch lost)
-xbox 360 (with my case/fan mods)
-my roommates 32' Viera
-my roommates ps3
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/Finlandboy05/Untitled.png
~not pictured~
-other ipods i left at home
-Evo 4g (took the pics with it)
rezenclowd3
Jan 7, 12:26 AM
That's a heck of a decision! I'd sell it back though. If he built that car, there's a huge bond he's now missing. There's always a mint E30 M3 out there somewhere. ;)
Yup. I will not find a buyer that has more invested into a car than the one who did the majority of the restoration/ engine+suspension swap. Damn, I've only had the car for 6 days, and he called again today to make another hard offer. I have to put my thinking cap on, but honestly I am already tired of searching for a good DD/ AutoX car to buy. Pics to come of another car should something happen:eek: LOL.
MMMM, E30 M3. Gives me chills....
Yup. I will not find a buyer that has more invested into a car than the one who did the majority of the restoration/ engine+suspension swap. Damn, I've only had the car for 6 days, and he called again today to make another hard offer. I have to put my thinking cap on, but honestly I am already tired of searching for a good DD/ AutoX car to buy. Pics to come of another car should something happen:eek: LOL.
MMMM, E30 M3. Gives me chills....
Cheffy Dave
Jun 24, 01:38 AM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/80/211502142_db3000b150.jpg?v=0
damn Son, very nicely done!:cool:
damn Son, very nicely done!:cool:
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